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Duygu's avatar

Ugh, this hits me hard! Working on a research organism that isn't one of the established ones, I have always had to do tool development myself, I actually enjoy the tinkering and wish we could have more freedom to do that. I have been trying to balance things for my trainees by getting them started on both risky and bread-and-butter projects. One way I proactively help them reframe the "fails" is that "success is measured by whether you are trying new things and troubleshooting, not by positive results". But, I also tell them, we need papers, and we should check in often about the progress to decide whether we should move onto something else. It's always an ongoing reassess and adjust.

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Mary O’Riordan's avatar

I wonder if preprint servers like bioRXiv, now used so much more commonly, can help to bridge that gap. Writing up a pile of rigorously performed experiments but negative data in anticipation of peer reviewers inevitably asking for yet more experiments is enough to make even the most enthusiastic trainee (or PI) throw up their hands. Getting this info out as a a preprint at least gets it into the public record, although it doesn't quite as well address your main point of risk to the trainee. Originally it seemed like the idea of journals like PLoS One or some of the solid society journals was that people could publish stories that were technically rigorous but didn't necessarily come to a flashy conclusion. In practice, even for these journals, reviewers still sometimes ask for more experiments to expand the scope rather just assessing the rigor of the experiments presented.

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