Discussion about this post

User's avatar
Basti's avatar

I sometimes do wonder how the current push for paid open access publications is going to lead to a further inflation of the system of "famous lab produces famous researchers".

We often get solely/mostly judged based on our publications. (I wish it wouldn't be the case, but it often boils down to that.)

And high publishing costs quickly become restrictive to different labs. Only those (usually big) and well funded labs can afford to pay multiple "high impact" publication fees a year. Which in turn increases their likelihood of winning a grant, attracting new recruits, publishing "high impact "again etc. and becoming an even more "famous lab".

Meanwhile those smaller (newer?), not so well funded labs can no longer consistently shine through their work alone.

And when it comes to gaining a next position: Who will have the "better" cv, just due to the funding status of their previous employer?

I fear this will lead to people seeking out "famous" labs for their employment even more. Thereby essentially becoming an even stronger culture of gatekeeping by who is "famous" versus "who isn't".

Expand full comment
Detlef Weigel's avatar

Liz, when you say "published", it seems you mean "published in a peer-reviewed journal". It is a good phenom that more and more institutions no longer distinguish between a preprint and a peer-reviewed publication, and consider a preprint as published output.

Also, regarding Basti's comment above, I would like to push back. The costs for the effort that goes into a typical molecular biology paper from a Global North lab is something like 250,000$ for salaries with benefits (guesstimate of 3 years average for 1 doctoral/postdoctoral researcher, plus 3 years of 10% PI salary), 50,000$ in consumables etc., 150,000$ in overhead, so on the order of 450,000$. So 5,000$ in APCs (article processing charges) adds about 1% to the total cost. Also, please remember that the goal is of course that eventually there will be no more subscription costs, and that OA publishing will be at least cost neutral, if not leading to overall cost savings for academia.

In the interest of full disclosure: I'm Deputy Editor of an OA journal, and I'm remunerated for my work as an editor.

Cheers,

Detlef Weigel

Expand full comment
6 more comments...

No posts